General:

Minutes of Meetings:

Welcome to the web site of the South Manchester Veterans Bowling Association.

We exist to promote Crown Green Bowling,

Our area covers South Manchester, Droylsden, Sale, Stockport, Stretford and Wythenshaw.

See the green finder for a list of clubs and links to maps showing where they are.

We run a mixed league for teams playing on Monday & Friday afternoon, for players over 55.

Currently we have two divisions on a Monday and one on a Friday, eight players per team.

The leagues are decided on aggregate points scored.

We also run knock-out cup competitions for each division, Monday division 1 the Coronation Cup division 2 J Arnett Cup and Friday division 1 the Nuttall Cup.

An individual Merit competition and a pairs competition.

For more details please contact the Admin Secretary by email  mrgeorgewood21up@gmail.com

Missed from Handbook

The return of George

2018 - Coronation Cup

2018 - J Arnett KO Cup Winners

Minutes of Meetings

2018 - Friday Division 1 Winners

2018 - Nuttall Cup Winners

League Pairs

League Merit

Coronation & J Arnett KO Cups

Missed from Handbook

Apology for missing entry in Handbook

Droylsdeh Park

Cemetery Road Droylsden  M43 6QN

Sec Mr G Fairclough  email 

0161 370 3541 / 07789 737 722

Captain  Mr B Ridsdale  07835 712 953

Rule Correction To Handbook For KO Cup Matches

3.2      To be eligible to play for any one team club members must have played in 4 of their teams league matches. Players may play for only one team in ether of the Monday Cups and one team in the Friday Cup.

Club information surplied correction

Houldsworth Pk

Captain  Mr H Kelly  07774 573 666

Debdale Pk

Captain A  Mr R Pope  07757 623 709

The return of George

HI

2018 - Coronation Cup

                   Coronation Cup - 2018

                Winners -  Levenshulme

2018 - J Arnett KO Cup Winners

                                       2018 - Winners Northenden Social

Minutes of Meetings

SOUTH MANCHESTER VETERANS BOWLING ACCOCIATION

AGM HELD AT LONGSIGHT C C  (Bowling Green Lane)

ON WEDNESDAY 14^th NOVEMBER at 1.30pm

Minutes of meeting

1)       Opening of the meeting by R Bestwick Vice President owing to the resignation of President W Marshall (wifes illness)

2)       Roll Call & Apologies – W Marshall, P Ryan (both resigned) E Pentland – Holiday. D Gordon, Jim Owen – Crowcroft, Delegates were present from all clubs

3)       Obituaries – All present observed a period of silence in memory of: Derek Colclough West Heaton.

4)       Minutes of Last AGM  - Had been circulated in advance with the Agenda. They were taken as read and approved as a true record

5)       Minutes of Last Meeting - Had been circulated in advance with the Agenda. They were taken as read and approved as a true record

6)       Secretaries Report – I feel that we have had a good first year and looking forward to next season, we had a few problems with the neutral greens not being available, the format for the finals of the KO Cups I think should be repeated as we had a good turn out to watch them also the merit and pairs. The format for the league for next season at present Monday both Divisions are 11 teams which equal 22 weeks each with one vacant team place in each division, Friday 1 Division of 8 teams which only covers 14 weeks but if we play an extra 7 games ether first drawn or neutral green that would give us an extra 7 weeks with the KO cups a full season of bowling, with no matches Easter Weekend but other Bank Holiday Mondays would have to be played on the Monday or Tuesday by mutual agreement. The Merit and Pairs would be arranged for August on a Tuesday. Heald Green applied to play on Fridays and the return of Longford was almost confirmed which would change the plans for next season also Parkville was looking doubtful on Mondays

7)         Match Secretary Report – Owing to Peter Ryan resigning on health grounds, I have now got access to the Results / Fixtures and have made corrections to them that I know about, I would like all clubs to check the website and report any errors before the end of the month after 30^th November no changes can be made as it will be shut down and reopened shortly afterwards by the web master ready for the 2019 Season, I shall start putting the Fixtures and Player Registrations on as soon as I have confirmation from all clubs.

8)       Treasurers Report and Adoption of Balance Sheet. In the absence of Eric Pentland who refused to submit a balance sheet audited before he went on holiday (read his note) and (the letter sent to him) I have with help from Roger Bestwick been able to submit a Statement that shows a £100 pound withdrawal which at present is not explainable, also I which to raise why he claimed £50 Expenses when I sent the invoices out and sorted a number of queries out. He gave me £50 expenses during the last meeting and I raised the point that I had produced the handbooks but would speak to him after the meeting, he left without doing so. The accounts will be looked into by a special meeting of the committee, If it can be arranged before R Bestwick as his annual break and after E Pentland returns from his holiday.

9)       Recommendation from G Wood that entry fees be raised to £50 per team, the full rise of £10 per team to be applied across present prize money amounts that are paid out which would make the lower amounts for recipients more meaningful. Rejected - Invoices for £40 per team would be sent out by email before the March meeting, for payment between March and June meetings.

9.i) Change of Rules – From Ashton for KO comp’s for next year to be - venue is first team drawn.

Amendment from Levenshulme - First drawn is home venue, away team receive 15 points plus handicap and first to set a mark. Amendment voted on first – Rejected – Two further amendments was proposed from the Clubs Both Rejected – 4 Home 4 Away – Rejected. Neutral Green – rejected Proposal passed.

ii)        From Levenshulme - Prize money only to be paid out if present at presentation event. - Passed

iii)       Rule 2.7 Change to - Any team with 7 or less players shall lose the games 21-0 No redraws.

Amendment from Albert Vets - “A team may use Rule 2.7 - a maximum of three times in any one season. Amendment – Passed.

iv)        From Levenshulme - 1^st Div Champs to concede 30 points and Runners Up 15 points each home match. - Rejected

v)        Teams that withdraw from semi-finals in Cup Matches to be disqualified from entry the following season. - Rejected

vi)      Rule 3.4 Change to - Player qualification is to have played in 4 league games for that team.

Amendment from Northen Etchells a change to rule 3.4 from a third to read from a quarter. – amendment rejected – proposal passed.   

10)   Election of Officers

President – Vacant - proposed by G Wood that Roger Bestwick be appointed President - Passed

Secretary – Mr G Wood - Passed

Match Secretary – Mr G Wood would set the website up and if no volunteer would cover for next season - Passed

Treasurer –  Should remain vacant owing to Eric Pentland being absent and no balance sheet, contravening our Rule 1.4  Again Mr G Wood would send invoices including any fines due by email for payment between March and June meetings, with banking assistance from Mr R Bestwick. – Passed subject to committee meeting and March meeting that could be updated to an EGM.

Committee - Ken Scott. Tom Gerard, Ray Langton, - Passed.

11)   Honorarium – No Change – But none passed for Treasurer for season 2018 subject to the above meetings

12)   All voting was decided by majority vote for or against - one vote per club

13)      Date of next meetings Delegates Wednesday’s 20^th March, 12^th June and 2^nd October with AGM at Longsight 20^th November

14)   A O B - None

15)      Closed Meeting at 2.55pm- for Presentations after a short recess

South Manchester Veteran’s Bowling Association

Minutes of

 Delegates Meeting Wednesday 3^rd October 2018 – 10.30am Ladybarn Park

Present:  Delegates from all Clubs except – A E U – Mr W Marshall President – Mr P Ryan Match Secretary.

Presidents Address: Secretary opened the meeting in the absence of the President owing to illness.

Roll Call & Apologies:  P Ryan  Hospital – W Marshall  Illness 

Obituaries: None 

Minutes of Last Meeting: 13th June 2018 had been circulated and accepted as a true record,

Secretary’s Report:  opened with a brief review of the season, including a statement about problems clubs had opening greens for neutral venue matches, two cups still to be returned ready for engraving with 2018 details, hoped to achieve that later that day, prize money would be the same as last year. Amendments to Rules for the AGM. From Ashton for KO comp’s for next year to be - venue is first team drawn. From Levenshulme 1) Prize money only to be paid out if present at presentation event. 2) Any team with 7 or less players shall lose the games 21-0 No redraws. 3) 1^st Div Champs to concede 30 points and Runners Up 15 points each home match. KO Cup matches – 4) First drawn is home venue, away team receive 15 points plus handicap and first to set a mark. 5) Teams that withdraw from semi-finals to be disqualified from entry the following season. 6) Player qualification is to have played in 4 league games for that team.  From Northen Etchells a change to rule 3.4 from a third to read from a quarter.    

Match Secretary’s Report:   The Admin Secretary stated that the web site needed a few corrections before archiving the information for this year.

Treasurer’s Report:  The Bank balance was £2706.50 and he would pass a copy of the Balance Sheet and Prize Money to the Admin Secretary for the AGM as he was on holiday.

Any Other Business:

Heald Green inquired about entering a second team, the admin secretary stated that under the present structure we could have 3 more teams on a Monday and 4 on a Friday. He would like confirmation from all clubs re team entries for next season as soon after the AGM and no later than Christmas as he would do the fixtures for publishing for the start of the new year.

Next Meeting: 14^th November 2018 AGM at Longsight CC @ 1.30pm

Meeting Closed: The Secretary closed the meeting at 11.10am with thanks to all for attending and Ladybarn for their hospitality

South Manchester Veteran’s Bowling Association

Minutes of

Delegates Meeting Wednesday 13th June 2018 – 10.30am Ladybarn Park

Present:  Delegates from all Clubs except – Northen Etchells and Mr R Bestwick VP

Presidents Address: Secretary opened the meeting in the absence of the President owing to illness.

Roll Call & Apologies:  Mr W Marshall  President – Illness, Mr E Pentland  Treasurer - Hoilday

Obituaries: Period of silence for:- Terry Bailey & John Bright.

Minutes of Last Meeting: 14th March 2018 had been circulated and accepted as a true record, after amendments: Under apologies add Parkville, Peter Bailey changed to Terry Bailey and Delamere Park as the winter green.

Secretary’s Report:

Complaint from Ray Langton – Re new Cup for Monday Division 1.  Delegates agreed that the new Cup mete there requirements.

Complaint from Eric Pentland – That the Secretary only invoiced Clubs £40 per team when he requested £50. Delegates agreed that the fees should be £40 as agreed at the AGM, they would be reviewed at the next AGM.

Complaint from Kevin Shackell MMBC – Re damage to green at Northen Etchells – Resolved between Council & Club.

AGM – Longsight CC booked 14^th November 2018

SMVBA – Merit 31^st August and Pairs 7^th September to proceed in the same format as last year on a neutral green If possible.

Match Secretary’s Report: He requested that all clubs should when submitting team sheets ensure that they are clear and easily readable. As some copies mainly photo type as taken by mobile phones can be out of focus.

Treasurer’s Report:  Given by the Secretary: A E U, Crowcroft. Debdale Pk, Heald Green, Highbank, Levenshulme and West Heaton had not paid their fees as of the 5^th June. He had banked £770 since the last meeting. A E U, Crowcroft, Heald Green, Longford Pk all paid the Secretary at the meeting a total of £240 which would be passed to the Treasurer. The remaining Clubs with outstanding fees Debdale Pk, Highbank and West Heaton.

Any Other Business: Mr F Warburton asked about Division format for next season, the Secretary pointed out that it would be on the agenda for the AGM.

Next Meeting: 12th September 10.30am Amended to 3^rd October owing to Secretary’s work load will be at Ladybarn Veteran’s Hut.

Meeting Closed: The Secretary closed the meeting at 11.50am with thanks to all for attending and Ladybarn for their hospitality.

South Manchester Veteran’s Bowling Association

Minutes of

Delegates Meeting 14^th March 2018 – 10.30am at Ladybarn Park

Present:  Mr W Marshall – President. Mr G Wood – Secretary. Mr E Pentland – Treasurer. Mr R Bestwick VP

Presidents Address: Mr W Marshall welcomed all delegates and thanked Ladybarn for hosting us once again.

Roll Call & Apologies: Delegates from all Clubs, apologies Parkville and Mr P Ryan

Obituaries:  Period of silence for:- Terry Bailey – Levenshulme, Harry Whitley – Longford and John Pemberton – SWMCC.

Minutes of Last Meeting: 13th September 2017 had been circulated and accepted as a true record. It was pointed out that in the SMVBC the minutes of the AGM was also circulated, these were read and accepted.

Secretary’s Report:

1)    Handbooks had been distributed and by a majority vote would be FOC. 2) Result Sheets – League & KO Competitions had also been distributed. 3) Correction to Mr E Pentland’s Address – No 28 not 23 as received from Roger, any other information that needs correcting during the season, please inform the Secretary.

2)    Barry Noble – Had 2 contacts with him – results of Council Meeting re greens to be available 2018 and a request from Parkville re a press report.

3)    Safeguarding Bowls a new rule by BCGBA was deferred.

Match Secretary’s Report: given by Mr G Wood only one club had not sent in Player Registrations. Owing to Mr P Ryan annual holiday, all result sheets that need to be posted during April only, please send to me and I will forward them by email to enable the league tables to be done, clubs that email the results send to Peter as normal, results to appear from the 16^th April.

Treasurer’s Report: Mr E Pentland stated the league account balance was £ 1611.60 and he would send out invoices to all clubs for this season fees to be paid by the next meeting.           

Any Other Business: It was pointed out by Mr J McNeill that the action group felt that they had not received any help from any of the other bowling organisations, a winter green was planned for the coming winter at Delamere Park. SWMCC offered their green, with bar facilities also tea etc should Crowcroft be in the final of the Monday KO Cups.

Next Meeting: 13^th June at 10.30am Ladybarn Veteran’s Hut.

Meeting Closed: The President closed the meeting at 12.10pm will thanks to all for attending and Ladybarn for their hospitality.

South Manchester Veterans Bowling Association

Minutes of the AGM held on Wednesday November 1st 2017

at Longsight Cricket Club

Present: Mr W Marshall President Mr R Bestwick Secretary Mr P Ryan Match Secretary Mr E Pentland Treasurer

1. President’s Remarks: Wally Marshall welcomed all delegates to the meeting. He thanked Longsight CC for hosting us once again, Ladybarn for hosting Delegates meetings, the clubs that had hosted Cup Finals also clubs hosting the Merit and Pairs Competitions.
2. Roll Call and Apologies: Delegates were present from all clubs except Longford Apologies for absence: None
3. Obituaries: All present observed a period of silence in memory of: Keith Jackson (Vice President), Ian Nicholson & Mike Fisher (Burnage G V), Harry Holt & Alfie Lamb (Crowcroft), Jim Hamnett & Dave Ruth (Debdale), Fred Busby (Didsbury), Cliff Moore (Highbank), Roy Mitchell (Ladybarn).
4. Minutes of last meeting & Minutes of the 2016 AGM: Had been circulated in advance with the Agenda. They were taken as read and approved as a true record
5. Secretary’s Report: Roger Bestwick congratulated all League, Cup and Competition winners. By and large it had been a successful season despite the impending threat to council greens from the massive cut in funding for maintenance. A preliminary plan had been formulated for the 2018 season, assuming that there was no major change to the number of teams in the three divisions. As in 2017 Cup rounds would take place as near to the end of the season as possible with handicaps based on 2018 results. Attendance at the 2017 Merit and Pairs competitions was disappointing, one possible solution was to make room in the Friday league for 2 weeks in both June and July for the two competitions. This puts all three divisions “in step” so it is possible to simplify Rule 3.3 such that all club members that have played in at least 5 league games by 19th August are eligible. In conclusion Roger Beswick put on record his thanks to everyone associated with the SMVBA for making his job a such a pleasure for (nearly) all his time as Secretary!
6. Match Secretary's Report: Peter Ryan said that his first season as Match Secretary had gone smoothly thanks to the secretaries and captains sending in results sheets promptly. He noted that the match between Parkville and Albert Vets had not been played.
7. Treasurer’s Report: Eric Pentland presented a summary of the accounts for the year ended 23rd October 2016. He was pleased to report a surplus for the year of £26.00 and a year end Balance of £ 2011.50. The Treasurer's Report was accepted with thanks to Eric for his efficient handling of the funds and clear presentation of the accounts.
8. Changes to Rules (shown in italics):

1.1 The Association shall be called the South Manchester Veterans Bowling Association and governed by a Council made up of: a) The Committee i.e. the President, Vice President, Secretary, Match Secretary, Treasurer and up to 5 elected members. b) Up to three Delegates from each club This change was proposed by the Secretary, seconded by Northen Etchells and approved unanimously'

2.7.1 A team one player short for a league match may use one player twice in the match (to be chosen by ballot of not less than seven cards otherwise forfeit 21 chalks). The second game, although counting towards the result of the match shall not affect or count towards the player’s average. The player required to play a second game in a match shall start off scratch his opponent shall start off 5 and the game shall be 21 up. This proposal was defeated by 14 votes to 2.

Rule 3.3 Player eligibility for Cup teams. Eligibility for any given team in Cup matches is restricted to club members that have played in at least 5 league games prior to the preliminary round. Players eligible for more than one team are allowed to play for only one Monday team and only one Friday team. This proposal was approved unanimously with the proviso that the number of games be adjusted as necessary if the preliminary round was played earlier in the season.

A proposal that all KO cup games be played on neutral greens by Ladybarn was seconded by Crowcroft and passed by 8 votes to 6.

Disputes and Appeals Panel

a) A club making a protest concerning noncompliance with SMVBA rules, whether as a body or on behalf of an individual member shall within seven days of the incident provide a written statement of the alleged offence to the Secretaries of both the SMVBA and the club of the alleged offender. b) The SMVBA Secretary shall convene a meeting of an ad hoc Disputes and Appeals Panel having 3 to 5 members. Panel members shall be SMVBA Committee members but not members of clubs involved in the dispute.

c) The panel shall meet within 28 days of the incident. The panel shall consider both written and oral evidence from both parties to the dispute. Where the alleged offender is an individual club member one other member of that club who is not giving evidence may provide advice. The panel shall give its decision and impose an appropriate penalty.

d) An appeal against the panel decision and/or penalty may be made to the next SMVBA delegates meeting. The decision of the delegates meeting shall be final. This proposal was approved unanimously

1. Election of Officers: The following were elected President: Wally Marshall Secretary: George Wood Match Secretary: Peter Ryan Treasurer: Eric Pentland Committee Members: Ken Scott. Tom Gerard, Ray Langton, Roger Bestwick A proposal from the floor that Roger Bestwick be elected Vice President was passed unanimously.

10. Honoraria: No change to the current levels was proposed so Honoraria continued as £100 per annum for each of the Secretary, Treasurer and Match Secretary.

11. Any Other Business:

11.1 Provisional Key Dates 2017-18 Deadline for teams to join/leave leagues: 31st December 2017 Delegates Meetings: Wednesdays March 14th, June 13th, September 12th (all 10.30 at Ladybarn) Next AGM: Date and Venue to be decided. Fridays: 6th April league start, 8th June Merit prelims, 22nd June Merit Finals, 15 July Pairs prelims, 29th July Pairs finals, 24th August KO Cup preliminary round, 14th September league ends, 28th September KO Cup Final. Mondays: April 9th league start, 20th August KO Cup preliminary round, 10th September league ends, 24th September KO Cup Final.

11.2 Northen Etchells expressed disappointment that tea and biscuits had not been provided at a well supported Coronation Cup final. It was pointed out that the provision of refreshments by clubs hosting matches on neutral greens was not compulsory.

11.3 George Wood handed round samples of handbooks as a possible replacement for the fixture sheets and rules documents currently used. He asked for comments from clubs.

12. Closure: The President closed the meeting at 2.20 pm with thanks to all for attending and especially to Longsight CC for their hospitality.

2018 - Friday Division 1 Winners

                                        2018 Winners - Northen Etchells "B"

       Peter Bradford, Dave Thorneycroft, Terry Peters, Chris Cox, Reg Fletcher, Mike Hannibal

                        Mark Boland, Joe Hardie, Roger Bestwick, Dave Vaughan capt

2018 - Nuttall Cup Winners

                                          2018 - Winners  Northen Etchells "B"

       Mike Hannibal, Joe Hardie, Mark Boland, Peter Bradford, Dave Thorneycroft, Reg Fletcher,

                       Chris Cox, Terry Peters, Roger Bestwick, Dave Vaughan capt

League Pairs

The League Pairs held on Longsight CC ( the new home of Crowcroft Park Veteran's

on Friday 7th September at 11am and played to a finish.

           Winners 2018 - The Jim Barrie Pairs

              Terry Hester & Ben Scott (Ladybarn)

League Merit

The League Merit that was planned for the 31st August has been changed to the 21st September.

Listed players please confirm to me (George Wood details in handbook) that you still wish to play

on the new date.

If you want to be included and not shown below, you can still enter, please contact me.

The Presedents Cup was won by Ben Scott of Ladybarn on a very wet Friday.

                                 2018 - Finalists

             Runner-up Phil Rudkin  -  Winner Ben Scott

Coronation & J Arnett KO Cups

Venues for the Semi Finals of both competitions:-

Coronation Cup -  Selected greens are Northen Etchells  &  Ashton

J Arnett Cup  -  Selected greens are SWMCC  &  Highbank

Above venues have all been confirmed.

The Final of both competitions will be at Longsight CC the new home 

of Crowcroft Park Vets on Monday 1st October start at 1pm

Would last years winners please return cups to me before the final day or to Longsight CC on the day. THANKS

Good Luck, Have a great afternoon to all competing teams, George

The above details are correct as the 1st October.

Refeshments ie tea and biscuit a charge of 20p under league rules is allowed, but I suggest that a small football card would off set the cost better.